Trustee Fees: How Much is Enough and How Much is Too Much?

I am often amused by the ads and offers I see concerning living trusts.

Almost always, one of the big sales pitches is how a living trust will save th*usands of doll*rs in "nasty" probate fees.

This leads the consumer to believe that you pay for probate, but living trusts are "fr*e." (that is, after you've paid the promoter to set one up for you).

Not so.

Here's an email I received from one of my subscribers (she has given me permission to discuss her question in this article):

Hi Phil, My mom passed away recently and my sister is 1st trustee. She claims she gets 10% of my mom's estate as 1st trustee. Is this true? What is the normal fee for 1st trustee?

Great question. Often one of the biggest, if not the biggest, areas of dispute between children or heirs after a death occurs.

What is a trustee fee? How is it calculated? Are there other fees?

If you have a trust and don't know the answer to these questions, I think the proper thought is "Uh-ohh!"

OK, let's have a quick review of trustee fees.

First let's make a distinction between the times a trustee may be called upon to act.

Remember, one of the best uses of a trust is to manage the assets of someone who is incapacitated. My best friend and his sister have been managing their mother's affairs (as trustees) for the last 10 years. Mom is 95, in decent physical health, but has advanced Alzheimer's).

Let's save the discussion of trustees fees charged for managing an incompetent's estate for a future article. Let's get down to answering the above question.

Here it is again:

Hi Phil, My mom passed away recently and my sister is 1st trustee. She claims she gets 10% of my mom's estate as 1st trustee. Is this true? What is the normal fee for 1st trustee?

Basically, the question is "How much can a trustee charge to handle an estate after a death?"

How do we answer this?

First, we have to look at the trust instrument.

Most competently drawn trust instruments will have a section that deals with trustee fees.

The better ones are fairly specific and make a distinction between acting as trustee while the beneficiary is alive, but incompetent, and acting as trustee after a death has occurred (similar actions to what an executor performs through a probate).

So, first, we look to the trust instrument. Often it will specify a fee. Sometimes it will say .75% to 1.25% of the total value of the assets being managed and transferred (since this is the typical fee charged by the professional trust companies run by many banks).

In fact, let's see what California law tells us about trustee fees (every state will have a statute, go to your county law library and ask the law librarian to help you look it up).

In California, the law of living trusts is contained in the Probate Code. Here is what Probate Code Sections 15680-82 tells us:

15680. (a) Subject to subdivision (b), if the trust instrument provides for the trustee's compensation, the trustee is entitled to be compensated in accordance with the trust instrument.

(b) Upon proper showing, the court may fix or allow greater or lesser compensation than could be allowed under the terms of the trust in any of the following circumstances:

(1) Where the duties of the trustee are substantially different from those contemplated when the trust was created.

(2) Where the compensation in accordance with the terms of the trust would be inequitable or unreasonably low or high.

(3) In extraordinary circumstances calling for equitable relief.

(c) An order fixing or allowing greater or lesser compensation under subdivision (b) applies only prospectively to actions taken in administration of the trust after the order is made.

15681. If the trust instrument does not specify the trustee's compensation, the trustee is entitled to reasonable compensation under the circumstances.

So to answer the question, we have to find out what the trust instrument says. If it is silent, then Section 15681 tells us the compensation is to be "reasonable compensation under the circumstances."

What is reasonable under the circumstances? If it were me, I would gather up the brochures of the various bank trust departments in the area to determine their rates. Where I live, the fee is .75% to 1.20%, depending on the size of the trust and the type of assets. The minimum is $5,000.

So, it looks like the answer to the question is that if the trust instrument says the 1st trustee is entitled to 10% compensation, then she may be. However, if it doesn't then the amount to be charged must be reasonable.

And, even if the trust instrument said 10%, I would seriously consider asking a court to change the compensation per 15680 (b) (2) that allows the court to change compensation "Where the compensation in accordance with the terms of the trust would be inequitable or unreasonably low or high."

This article needs to be continued since we haven't even touched on the big m*ney m*ker for trustees and attorneys, "extraordinary fees."

Good luck and until next time,

Phil Craig

P.S. Feel free to forward this on to any friends.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

? Phil Craig, All Rights Reserved

http://www.LivingTrustSecrets.com

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Phil Craig is a licensed attorney and entrepreneur. He started practicing law at age 25 in 1979. He does not take on any more clients, but is advisor to some of the biggest names in the internet world. He shares his knowledge gained over the last 25 years at his Living Trust Secrets newsletter site: click here=========>http://www.livingtrustsecrets.com

** Attn Ezine editors / Site owners **
Feel free to reprint this article in its entirety in your ezine or on your site so long as you leave all links in place, do not modify the content and include our resource box as listed above.

If you do use the material please send us a note so we can take a look. Thanks.

limousine Ackley .. Lockport Chicago limo O’Hare
In The News:

Stay up to date on the latest AI technology advancements and learn about the challenges and opportunities AI presents now and for the future.
Artificial intelligence-based cameras are giving air defense operators unprecedented capabilities in monitoring and protecting airspace.
Apple's iOS 18.1 Inactivity Reboot automatically reboots your iPhone if it hasn't been used or unlocked for more than three days, providing better data protection.
An inventor designed rooftop solar panels for a Tesla that draws solar energy while the car is parked, adding travel mileage without plugging in.
There are currently no laws governing what artificial intelligence can and cannot do with the information it gathers; here are 10 things to avoid telling AI chatbots to keep yourself safe.
A credit union with over 240,000 members recently revealed it was targeted by cybercriminals, resulting in a data breach that was part of a two-month attack by hackers.
Scammers have become skilled at creating convincing fake websites that can easily fool unsuspecting users. The CyberGuy offers tips to protect yourself.
Stay up to date on the latest AI technology advancements and learn about the challenges and opportunities AI presents now and for the future.
CAPTCHAs, which are used by websites to confirm whether users are people or bots, are harmless, but hackers are using them to infect PCs with malware.
Hackers recently leaked personal information of about 500,000 Americans and stole patient medical records that included lab results and insurance details.
The holiday season sees a rise in mobile shopping scams. Tech expert Kurt “CyberGuy" Knutsson helps you learn how to stay safe.
Tech expert Kurt “CyberGuy" Knutsson says a VPN enhances online banking security by encrypting data and protecting privacy.
Beware of these six sneaky holiday scams. Tech expert Kurt “CyberGuy" Knutsson gives you tips to avoid falling victim.
Tech expert Kurt “CyberGuy" Knutsson reveals how to securely back up and factory reset your Android to protect your privacy and data.
Artificial intelligence is making life easier for cybercriminals, allowing them to create elaborate scams to trick people. Kurt the Cyberguy explains how to protect yourself.
Cut through all the digital clutter and delete multiple emails from your Android simultaneously. Kurt the CyberGuy explains how it's done.
Tips to prevent your holiday decorations from being stolen
Stay up to date on the latest AI technology advancements and learn about the challenges and opportunities AI presents now and for the future.
Kurt "CyberGuy" Knutsson lays out the immediate steps you should take if your phone has been hacked and your personal information becomes vulnerable.
Fraudsters are sending people bogus invoices through PayPal as part of a sneaky scam that is going around; here's how to protect yourself from being fooled.
A former Colgate-Palmolive employee was shocked to discover $750,000 had been drained from her 401(k) account. "CyberGuy" offers tips on how to prevent identity theft.
Electric vehicle maker Harbinger recently showed its electric delivery truck can handle icy roads with agility and stability in winter.
To make the busiest time of year more manageable, here are some tricks for tracking your packages, taking quality family photos and curating the perfect Christmas playlist.
Kurt "CyberGuy" Knutsson explains how to keep your online Amazon gift purchases a secret from loved ones or friends this holiday season.
Factory resetting an iPhone is a crucial step to protect your privacy and prevent theft when you are selling, trading or donating your device.

Your Own Products Can Make You Rich

Although there are advantages to selling other people`s products and... Read More

Can You Be Rich? Part 1

What does becoming rich mean to you? Is it early... Read More

Wealth Creation and Mortgage Planning - Two Great Tastes that Taste Great Together

What if I were to tell you that almost everything... Read More

The Top 10 Steps to Becoming a Millionaire

There is perhaps no more important decision than to take... Read More

The Mathematical Formula For Making Money

No matter what markets you serve; what products you sell;... Read More

The Three Step Plan To Prosperity

You have $100 in your bank account, your rent is... Read More

Steps to Financial Freedom

Financial freedom is the power to do what you will... Read More

If You Know These 5 Wealth Secrets Then You Are Probably Already A Millionaire

Wealth Secret 1 - Decide Your Outcome Right Now.Unless you... Read More

Mastering Your Money

One of the things most of us have old ideas... Read More

Start A Cashflow Club

The cashflow board games, Cashflow 101, Cashflow 202, and Cashflow... Read More

Creating Money, Prosperity, and Abundance Now (Part 1)

I have given many prosperity lectures over the years and,... Read More

Investment Techniques For Creating Passive Income

There are many wealth creation strategies and investment techniques available... Read More

Financial Freedom, Is It Only A Dream or Just Steps Away?

Almost all of us go to work everyday and do... Read More

Don?t Work for Your Money, Make it Work for You!

Well, the New Year is around the corner and so... Read More

Starting With Smaller Goals First And Work Your Way Up Until You Achieve Financial Freedom

While you need to have a lot of positive-thought and... Read More

Who Wants To be A Millionaire?

How many people search Google, Yahoo and MSN each day... Read More

How to Save Money and Take the Vacation You Always Wanted

Many people don't realize how much money they spend on... Read More

Online Retirement Opportunity: Freelance Copywriting

For most of us, the idea of retiring simply on... Read More

Trustee Fees: How Much is Enough and How Much is Too Much?

I am often amused by the ads and offers I... Read More

The Making Money Obsession - Discover The Real Truth

In most societies, we are raised to believe in the... Read More

Financial Planning For Singles

Financial planning often gets a bad rap. Part of the... Read More

Living Trusts: Do They Protect Your Assets From Creditors?

A surprising number of readers want to know "Can a... Read More

Methods Of Raising Instant Cash

The inability to come up with the necessary cash when... Read More

The Hawk and the Mouse - Saving for Retirement

There once was a hawk, ferocious and swift. He was... Read More

8 Tips for Keeping More of Your Hard Earned Money

Masters degree not required...just a little common sense, a $5.00... Read More

shuttle from O'Hare Alexander ..